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Narrator: This is the TriSwim Coach Podcast where the most difficult leg of the triathlon becomes your friend leaving your struggles and your competition behind you. TriSwim helping you to laugh at the water.

Kevin: Welcome to TriSwim Coach this is Kevin and this is episode no. 53. Coming up! I have Part 2 of my interview with Barbara Mockford. But I want to make a quick announcement, we have released recently a new product and that’s training for a sprint triathlon distance. It’s all programmed and the website is Triathlon Spring It’s a book and there are other several resources on how to train specifically for a sprint distance triathlon, and this is geared towards beginners. So, if you’re not a beginner and you have several races on your belt already, it might not be the best thing for you. But if you are at the beginner level, you haven’t done a race yet or you’ve done 1 or 2 races and you just need more guidance on what you’re doing this is a great resource. I put together this book with my friend Ron XavierMo of Trafika and, we made sure to put in all the necessary ingredients that you need for Sprint Race. And of course, there are some swimming focus in the program because of my swimming background. So, check that out! Right now, we’re offering a free mini course and you get 7 steps on how to do the sprint triathlon and all that’s free. So, you could go to Triathlon Sprint Check that out. That’s about it for today, enjoy part 2 of the interview with Barbara Mockford and have a great week of training and we’ll talk to you next week.

Kevin: That is amazing how much like sports especially difficult sport  like Triathlon can help you mentally be prepared for so many other things in life. And, I was just thinking more of the little things, like dealing with conflict and dealing with business issues and things like that. But even for the big stuff like Life or Death situation. The Mental Strength can really come in handy.

Barbara: Every Ironman and every Triathlete out there is so strong in the mind. And, I have the attitude of just look here. Because, I’m gonna get here.

Kevin: At what point did you decide to write a book about your ordeal and, how much did the inspiration lands on Armstrong’s book in writing a book.

Barbara: I first came up with the idea of writing a book. It wasn’t really writing a book. It sort of probably unloading myself. And, when I was working, I am quiet patches through my drove. And, I ask my bosses if what was my way to stick to an unloaded thinking on the computer. And they say, that was really cool. So, during the period of time that I worked hard just unloaded the thinking. Because, that was the point we’re fringe would probably analyze and probably toss in this. People just kind of get tired of getting wow. We’re I appreciated it. So, I channeled all my thoughts and keeping word on that in my system unto the laptop or the computer. So, I started doing it in a chronological order. So, I get rid in the things on my head. And, during the process of the cancer  treatment, one of my friends that worked as a manager and his name is Paul Brent, at frontier, he sat with me on my last day. He looked of anything that I can do that can help to keep contact with me. I took him and his words and then during months of chemo, I just seem to go miles and he was giving me the way and taught me to work 2:00 in the morning or the night. To feel the worth. I received a long emails, so I used those emails to help on the process of my book and, also I came close to calling the book “Dear Branny” because, that was his nickname. But anyhow, if Tom will buy, I’ll just fill it in in the gifts. And he gave me lots of books and that was really good. And when I was reading it, with those deep phrase, and I ended up having a sort of a mixtures. So, it dawned on me. And then reading the cycle during his chemo to keep fit. I wanted to do the same thing. I never got real to it but, I did a realizations that the book helped me I felt. Just as thoughts proceeds has way to win a belt and not letting things defeat him.

Kevin: But of course, he didn’t have to double the duty the arthritis on top of the cancer. I was pretty impressed. That was what I’ve been thinking when I read that great book. And also, this story of yours is for me an inspiring and impressive Lance Armstrong just that as obviously, he’s got a lot of a little bit of media attention. I hope that your story goes out there and I hope a lot of people take up on this and it would be great. I wanted to circle back to the nutrition because, I thought of what was I’m going to ask you about. So, you pretty much don’t need to read. I find that more interesting because you said you also draw an iron. How do you think that works to know that sometimes it can be an issue especially with women?

Barbara: In my friend, Bob who have written the book, he taught me what telling of every detail from not having to meat. I do crave it. I do miss those steaks. Something chronic. I think last month, I had 2 steaks in a week. And probably, wanted to hit some more.So when craving for steaks just gets ridiculous I just go out and buy it.

Kevin: Have you look at all into a Paleo diet?

Barbara: No, What’s that?

Kevin: Okay I’ll send you a link about it. Because, there are some people that are seeing that it’s the best diet for arthritis. And, it’s basically, I don’t really follow a diet but, it’s kind of along the lines of it’s how I eat generally. And it’s vegetables, meat, fruit, nuts, seeds and anything that the Paleo ancestors could access. It’s anything that is packaged or processed is out. It tends to be fully low-carb diet with not that much sugar. But, a lot of people are claiming, I have a link that I’ll send to you after we’re done here. It sounds pretty promising, I don’t know exactly what it is to cure people but, it might work.

Barbara: That sounds really good because, Tom my friend always believes in steroids and in his grandma right? We’ve been proving the effect and what he ate. And the food in it’s purest form.

Kevin: That’s what this diet can strives to give back to its natural there are even some of shoots the paleo. It’s like a movement, they call it a paleo movement. There’s options there’s exercise in where were more kind of how we are meant to move as supposed to doing things that are beyond how meant to do. So, like for example, there is what we call a natural movement. It involves in activities like climbing trees, and jumping off of ledges. Things like that. What is your exercise like these days?

Barbara: It’s bicycling racing that’s what they call it. It’s a sprint type, bicycling zero it’s actually what I get from nothing to what I get for something. So, I just go to the gym and pick body movement in the nutshell and I do a little weights and surely some stretching exercise and keep the movement of the arms. I think my strongest is the hangs and the colds, so I tried being strong so I can get up to the head of the chair. And make my everyday life easy for me. And, in this long term goal, it might take 10 years but, I still do a little triathlon and that would be nice.

Kevin: That would be amazing if you could get back to it.

Barbara: In the pool, I look like a drowning poodle.

Kevin: You’ve mentioned that new book, I actually have the same thing, I always wanted to be a freestyle and back-stroker. And then, I could never do breath stroke. I was horrible at breath stroke. Then later when I did nastier swimming a few years ago, I did a monstrous competition and entered the 100 meter breath stroke and people were saying, I look like a turtle, because, that’s a kind of stroke that you really have to pop your head out of the water. And, I guess my head wasn’t really completely out of the water. It’s better to be a turtle and nothing at all.

Barbara: You should get to the finish line.

Kevin: That’s crazy here that you’re still active and thinking that about possibly one day doing that sprint triathlon. I’m in the idea of doing a sprint triathlon because, that’s how everyone seems to start or most people start. They’re fun and you still have to train for them, you can’t just jump out of bed and do the sprint. But at the same time, it isn’t like a whole life incompensing activity where you have to be trained all the time. I think it’s a nice distance.

Barbara: I did swimming a few months back, because I just wanted to do it. And I had any training for, the triathlon reader, the armin reader. So this is triathlon, I did a 100 meters swim and the 9k cycle and, 3k walk. I did the swim and I was excited and, everyone took off and leads me to the lawn. But they’ll do it in 16mins and 9mins. I made 16mins. And, it brought me to the finish line.

Kevin: So, you finished the swim?

Barbara: I did. Ivy and I went home and everything was so lovely, they helped me. She was really trying to hit me to the competitions. I really enjoyed the day.

Kevin: Did you get some applause anyway though?

Barbara: Yes, my friends were clapping and telling me to walk to the finish line.

Kevin: And you finished?

Barbara: Yes. We still kind of process.

Kevin: Yes, I can imagine. Well, congratulations on your book and also, on your 5 years of being cancer free. I think that’s incredible.

Barbara: Thank you.

Kevin: Yes, and, goodluck with everything. I’m gonna keep reading your blog and have to keep the inspirational stories you put up. Thanks so much for coming on the show sharing everything. I think we can all get some inspiration from your words.

Barbara: Thank you so much for calling me, that’s really nice.

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